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TANATA is devoted to discussing the paradoxes and the mysteries of life, among which is the paradox of the coexistence of good and evil. “God is love,” John tells us. Evil exists, we would suggest, not because God is detached or unconcerned, but because free will exists which is required for true, unforced love to exist. Still, it is painfully hard to reconcile this paradox. We believe that all evil one day will be judged and destroyed, until then we must pray.

DANIEL 7:13-14

13 “I was watching in the night visions, and behold, One like the Son of Man, coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him.

14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His kingdom the one which shall not be destroyed.


7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

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« Was Eve Raped by the Serpent? She Didn't Have A Sex Drive at the Time, right? »

by Randall Carter Gray

one.jpgJULY 31, 2007 — Firstly, have you ever thought mythically and poetically about Eve’s birth pangs and why she was “punished” with the worst pain known to man for eating an apple? Does Genesis 6 several chapters over provide us with an explanation as to why pangs of birth, labor pains, the plague of all women, followed Eve’s encounter with the serpent? And why Adam had to learn how to grow his own (I say it was because evil had made such a mess of things, the first couple couldn’t wait to get out of there — and God didn’t blame them). Adam and Eve weren’t tossed out of Eden, they fled because of those nasty snake people.

Have you ever tried to understand the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil? … And why it was wrong for her and Adam to know certain things about this tree, which apparently would be to know evil, to know the sacred geometry? We have to ask if the biblical “know,” in this case, had any sexual connotation or if we are talking about purely an act of the mind. Interesting how the true makers of crop circles have tried so desperately to make us think the they are God.

Have you ever wondered why the consequences of Eve’s “sinful” apple-pickin’ ways was God rewarding her with a sex drive (so that she would sexually desire her husband)? Not only did God not kill Adam and Eve for “eating apples,” he caused Eve to become horny so that she would stick with Adam, for her own protection. If Eve had not had a sex drive before she ate the apple, it would have not been Eve who initiated the sexual contact with the serpent, as we have always been led to believe. Eve didn’t go looking for “the apple” … “the apple,” so to speak, came to her. Eve was raped. More on this next time.

The Reptilians are simply doing what they successfully did in Eden.

But, for now, I’d like to recap my assumptions and conclusions about Genesis and the allegorical and literal — or literallegorical — nature of the narrative account of Adam and Eve and the emergence of evil in the Garden of Eden. To come to my conclusions I first have made the following assumptions, after thinking about these specific things since the early 60s, when I was a child who desperately was doing everything I could do to avoid going mad from night terrors and lucid dreaming, sleepwalking, until I had a breakthrough, which had been planned all along:

One, that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is God; two, that this God is merciful and patient with humanity, and, hates the presence in the world of evil as much as you and I (and humanity) generally do; three, that this God is sovereign and therefore capable of turning bad things into good things and inspiring only good things on earth, which evil wishes to thwart and often succeeds in doing; four, that evil exists because for true love to exist, we have had to live in a freely rebellious society; and five, that God is a poet, or The Poet, who must address us as he has and provide us with meaning via symbolic and metaphorical methods in the form of inspired holy writ and the events which occur in each of our lives.

I believe everything is significant, all parts of life and reality being parts of a whole, thriving organism — a believer’s version of the Gaia principle, if you will. I do not believe in coincidences. I believe that those who struggle and suffer most, as Jesus said, will be and are eventually blessed, but with spiritual riches.

Jesus was a loser, but he ultimately has portrayed himself in the best of all lights — by telling us unpopular, revolutionary things about how to live together, by telling us that to follow him, to be as he is, to be greatest, we must submit to persecution and hardships and become the least. The least, I believe it is true, have not had to work very hard at being the least; it is a fact of life for those who, because of certain disabilities or the color of their skin, or their Jewishness, etc., have not had to try to wreck their lives to see God. The lives of such people have been wrecked for them. But intentionally, with God’s permission and his withdrawal of assistance, when he might easily have provided it. One who finds himself in this position will feel utterly forsaken at times, but we become docile, shapeable, malleable like clay in the potter’s hands Just as God blesses with material goods, which can be a curse, he withdraws and withholds these things as well. He is that involved, I believe, and that precise.

I believe God is a matrix, otherwise, he could not be everywhere and do all that he does. And I believe that what Jesus said in the Beatitudes is true: blessed are the meek, the timid, the weak, those who are persecuted, the hated peacemakers, for they shall see God. When that assurance becomes the most important thing for you in a life that has never worked well or has been painful due to illness and a crippling disability, as mine has, something happens or time. Just like something happened when Jesus submitted to the cross. And the thing is, you don’t know it is happening, or that it has happened, or that paradoxes are true … until your goose is nearly cooked.

The reversal of fortunes, in cases like these (which the observant Jews are poised to realize, I believe), are wonderful and joyous things. Poverty and sickness cause the poor and ill genuinely to shed tears of joy, when the curse is lifted. This is going to happen, I believe; it is happening now. In the case of the arid Near and Middle East, in the Holy Land and East Africa, where there has never been adequate water … that, as per the Bible, is going to change. I know this logically, and because I have studied water as an entity in all the places in which it appears in the Bible — and the literal and symbolic meaning associated with such an approach has been the neatest thing I have ever done. I have some neat new stuff which I will be putting up on the second virgin birth — and the role water will play in that.

The lifting of my curse occurred at the age of 48 in 2001, when I suffered a mental breakdown because of my military-related disabilities. I’m 54 now, and I’m still nearly as excited as I was six years ago, when the paradigm shifted in a big way. I wasn’t an ugly duckling after all, but a spiritual swan. Problem is, when I discovered this, I was too old and too tired, exhausted really, to do much with it … but this blog.

What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger … is true. And what does kill us, if we are submissive to his ways, not dreaming up ways of thinking and living for ourselves in the course of our lives, is an ultimate gain. That is a hard position for me to have taken, it is a very sad one with a history of great remorse and disappointment, but it paid off (as if I had anything to do with that) it has born fruit, even as the pruned bush comes by fuller and more fruitful in the following season. I believe in this principle … and the reversal of fortune, and paradigm shifts, and so do any of you who have seen the fortunes reverse themselves in your own lives. If you haven’t, hang in there. If you’re dying, it’s going to be okay.

These are my beliefs — and neither you nor anyone else needs to agree with them or be threatened by them, because I have been wrong enough in my life that I’m not surprised when I am. So, take anything I say with a grain or several grains of thought. However, in my heart of hearts, I believe that I’ve succeeded, at least for me, in correctly dissecting and examining Genesis, the most mythical and inaccessible of all of the Holy Scriptures, with the possible exception of the book of Revelation. The beginning and the end of things, we can then conclude, if we haven’t already, are tricky, because they lie beyond our reach.

Our times, those in which we live, and my personal experience have put me on a path that I was able to make positive assumptions along the way concerning God’s sovereignty and the true nature of scripture, as men have been inspired to write it. But I must qualify that statement: I’m convinced that the Bible, portions of it, have been tampered with, to no great effect, mind you; and that there were multiple inspired storytellers and authors who spoke out and wrote the Torah/Pentateuch, including Genesis, and that because of the multiple authors we find in Genesis (E, J, P and Q, and D), there are some gaps and missteps, contradictions, but they, too, are too minimal to make a difference.

I also believe that there is a cosmic conflict presently being waged, as it has been waged for centuries and millennia, between the forces of good and the forces of evil, which are of an angelic and supernatural nature. I have had to go out on a limb and stay there for nearly all of my life, frankly, to reach the assumptions and conclusions about the Eden story in Genesis which I have.

Nothing makes me any more special than anyone else, if these assumptions and observations are correct; I say that, because it has only — ONLY — been as a result of childhood trauma and frightening, mind-bending hallucinations as a young child, between the ages of 5 and 7, which permitted me then and which permit me now to view God in the light in which I view him. I have always wanted to give God the benefit of the doubt, in all things — but I have not always rushed to judgment. I have researched and logically come to my positions as honestly and as objectively as I could possibly do, being willing to admit to myself that if the whole God concept which I leaned upon and thought to be true could be proved to be frivolous and hopelessly incredible, I would turn away from God and the Bible and never look back.

My career as a newspaper reporter for two daily papers in the South trained me to be objective, no matter what the topic, or however I might disagree with what was being said and done, or performed, which I had to cover as part of my job. I didn’t want to disprove the divinity of scripture of the existence of God, but neither did I want to be led down a primrose path, or misinformed or deceived, if I could prove to myself that this was the case with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and both the Hebrew Scriptures and the Christian Scriptures.

People who know me would tell you if you asked them: there have been times when I have been so disgusted with Christianity and Christians that I have come very, very close several times in my life to becoming a Jew, who believed in Jesus as the Messiah, or being entirely non-denominational, but acknowledging that Jesus was Messiah and scripture was 99.5 percent accurate and true. But it wouldn’t surprise me if that 99.5 percent were to be lowered slightly — because I believe that just as mankind and God’s creation have been corrupted, so have portions of the scriptures been corrupted, or taken out altogether, so as to deceive both Jews and Christians that their personal faiths were valid.

Well, who would do such a thing? A heretic, for one — who is a most curious and despicable kind of person, who, I have concluded, is only the way that he is, which is opposed to God and God’s Son, because he is very, very angry and very, very proud with no reason to be.

Proud and angry people, people who are not humble but who have every reason in the world to be humble, being much less bright than they give themselves credit for … it is these sorts of people who not only become heretics but apostates, operating not from the outside of the Christian faith, but from the inside. A Christian apostate or heretic — which are contradictions in terms — are paradoxical and highly self-deluded people. Misplaced pride is what accomplishes that — which, of course, is what Lucifer is … and certain national leaders, who shall go nameless. Evil is always a possibility when there are people who believe that they speak for God on the basis of some secret knowledge which they have attained along the way, in the course of their lives, which no one else is privy to. This applies even to the president of the United States who must chuckle to himself and say, Boy, you know, people give me a tough time on this war thing and what I’m trying to accomplish, but if they could only see all of what I see.

Such as what … that God is not sovereign, because you have convinced yourself, as perhaps other officials have, that we have creators, and not one Creator, beings who comprise a whole other pantheon, ancient gods, with the ability to transcend time and do marvelous technological things, gods with whom you and other officials have had contact? Well, Mr. President, and anyone else who agrees with you, having seen some of what you have … you are wrong, wrong, wrong. And I will bet my life on it. I say this because I have not frivolously come to my conclusions, as you have. I have worked very, very hard and very, very objectively to have reached the point that I have. I have been burdened in ways which you have not been burdened, and, as a result, I have had to rely on the presence of God in the face of terrifying anxiety, which I have not always understood.

Those anxious days are over, and I know why that they are … even as I know why the occurred in the first place. Because a paradox is in place, the humble shall be exalted, without wanting to be, which includes me. I just want to live in peace, to live and let live, and to stop those who would stop me for doing just that. Logically and instinctively, because of my suffering and a fairly good but still flawed mind that God has given me, I see logically that what has impressed you is also that which has deceived you. The greatest deceivers are those people who isolate themselves and rely on others to get them ahead, and so deceive themselves that they are really of any value.

You and I, Mr. President, we are dust and to dust we shall return. You unwillingness to admit this will lead you and those who agree with you to utter ruin. Next time, I’ll try to show why that is. Ronald Reagan, who was nearly assassinated in office, had a lot to say about things that few other presidents have been bold enough to talk about. Just from a logical standpoint, and because I know that the people who have disagreed with Mr. Reagan’s willingness, eagerness to tell the truth about the real threat that faces our world … I know that these people are stupid, and that they have been made stupid on account of their misplaced pride.

We’ll finish up on Genesis and Eden, before we turn back to the New Age and the occult, all being topics and positions which are probably going to cost me some more subscribers and some friends, but I’ll try as best I can to support my claims so that these things don’t happen … and maybe I can help someone along the way, being the biggest loser of all.

Reader Comments (1)

I really enjoyed this. I found you by coming to the same conclusion. Thank you so much for this.
May 9, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterIntrigued

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